You traded for a Batwing thinking "it's an Ancient — that means valuable." A week later it's still sitting in your inventory while Harvester trades fly past you in every lobby. You're not imagining it. Batwing really is harder to move than almost any other Ancient in Murder Mystery 2, and there are three structural reasons why.
The short answer: Batwing was the first Ancient weapon MM2 ever released, but a mass duping event, no matching set piece, and an aging visual design have crushed its real-world demand far below what the "Ancient" label suggests. On paper it's worth 46 to 52 on value lists. In practice, finding a buyer who actually wants it — not as filler adds in a multi-weapon downgrade — can take weeks.
This isn't another "check demand and compare value lists" guide. It's a single-weapon liquidity case study that explains why Batwing specifically is stuck in the slow lane, how to verify a Batwing listing is legitimate before you buy or trade for one, and what your actual exit options look like.
The Three Reasons Batwing Demand Is Broken
When an Ancient weapon sits at 46 to 52 on multiple MM2 value lists but still won't move, the problem isn't the number — it's the demand structure underneath it. Batwing has three specific demand problems that most other Ancients don't share.
Reason one: the duping event permanently killed perceived scarcity.
Batwing was originally sold as a one-week Halloween 2018 gamepass for 2,499 Robux. Because it was a gamepass rather than a limited-stock item, anyone who paid during the event window got a copy — the supply was never capped by design. That already made it less scarce than event-tier Ancients that required reaching tier 30 of a grind track, like Harvester.
Then came the 2021 mass duping glitch. Batwing was one of the most heavily duplicated weapons during that wave. Nikilis responded by re-skinning known duped Batwings into a common knife called Glitch, but two problems remained. First, not every duplicated copy may have been caught — some unmarked dupes likely still circulate alongside legitimate ones. Second, and more importantly, the community memory of Batwing as "the duped Ancient" stuck regardless of cleanup. Even if a seller can prove their Batwing is the real thing, buyers treat every Batwing as suspect because the game doesn't surface an item's origin. The value list number hasn't changed much — the trust underneath it has.
Reason two: Batwing has no matching set piece, so there's no set premium.
In MM2 trading, set completion is one of the strongest demand drivers. Icebreaker trades faster because Iceblaster exists — someone who owns Iceblaster wants Icebreaker, and vice versa. Logchopper moves because completing the Logchopper Set (with Minty) unlocks a collector premium.
Batwing has no partner. It was released as a standalone gamepass item with no matching gun or complementary weapon. That means every Batwing trade is a standalone negotiation. There's no set-completion buyer scanning trade lobbies for "Batwing + ???" — the demand pool is limited to people who specifically want Batwing for its own sake.
Reason three: the visual design hasn't aged well against newer Ancients.
Batwing's model is a black scythe with a bat-wing blade — it's based on the old Roblox gear Bat Scythe, and it shows its age. Compare that to Harvester's Halloween theatricality, Icebreaker's icy glow, or Gingerscope's clean modern design. The MM2 trading community overwhelmingly preferences newer, flashier weapons, and Batwing doesn't compete on that front. It has no Chroma variant, no color-shifting animation, and no visual hook that stops a trader mid-scroll in a trade lobby chat.
These three factors together create what traders call a liquidity trap. Liquidity means how easily a weapon converts into other items or value — a liquid weapon moves in hours or days; an illiquid one sits for weeks. A liquidity trap is an item whose value-list rating suggests mid-tier desirability, but whose actual trade velocity is near zero. Batwing is the clearest example in the Ancient tier. (For reference, the value-list numbers used throughout this article draw from Supreme Values and MM2Values, two of the most commonly referenced community value lists checked July 2026.)

Is That Batwing Listing Even Legitimate?
Before you buy or trade for a Batwing — or try to move the one you're stuck with — you need to rule out the worst-case scenario: the weapon in the trade window might be a cover for something else.
Check the exact weapon name in the trade window. The MM2 trade window shows the weapon name below the thumbnail. "Batwing" should appear exactly. If the name says "Glitch" or anything else, the seller is offering a duped copy that was re-skinned. Glitch shares its design with Whiteout and is worth essentially nothing on the trading market.
Ask for an inventory screenshot showing the Batwing alongside a known item at a different tier. If the seller claims their Batwing is legitimate but refuses to send a full inventory screenshot — or sends one that's cropped tightly around just the Batwing — treat that as a weak signal. A legitimate seller with nothing to hide can show the Batwing sitting in a broader inventory, ideally next to a well-known Godly or Ancient that provides context. No single screenshot proves authenticity, but a refusal to provide one is a red flag.
Don't pay an Ancient-tier premium for a seller who only says "MM2 Ancient weapon" without naming Batwing. Some listings use vague language — "selling rare Ancient knife MM2" or "old event Ancient weapon" — to avoid naming the item. This is usually a sign the seller knows the weapon won't attract buyers if named directly. A trustworthy listing names the exact weapon.
If the seller emphasizes "first Ancient ever released" as a price justification, be skeptical. First-ancient status is a collector talking point, not a demand driver. It means something to a niche group of MM2 historians, but it doesn't make the weapon more liquid in the trade lobbies where most movement happens.
Three Exit Strategies If You Own a Batwing
If you're holding a Batwing and can't find a buyer, you have three real options. Pick based on how fast you want out versus how much value you're willing to preserve.
| Exit Route | How It Works | Time to Move | Value Preserved | Best When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bundle with a liquid add | Pair Batwing with a high-demand Godly like Fang, Laser, or Shark and offer the basket for a single higher-tier item | 1-3 days | 65-80% of combined paper value | You want reasonable value and don't want to wait weeks |
| Target set collectors on Discord | Use MM2Values or Supreme Values Discord servers to find "LF Batwing" posts — typically collectors filling out Ancient libraries | 1-4 weeks | 80-95% of paper value | You can wait for the right buyer |
| Sell at a discount for clean exit | Accept 15-20% below the lower end of value-list range (around 36-38 on Supreme) for a genuinely liquid item | Same day to 1 week | 80-85% of paper value | Speed matters more than maximizing value |
The bundle route is the most reliable middle path, but it has a catch: how do you get the liquid add if Batwing itself won't sell? The most realistic path is to pair Batwing with a mid-tier Godly you already own — a Fang, Laser, or Shark from your existing inventory — and offer the two-for-one basket for a single higher-tier Ancient. If your inventory is truly just Batwing with nothing else worth trading, consider buying a cheap liquid Godly with Robux through a marketplace listing for a few dollars, then bundling. The bundle becomes Fang + Batwing for Harvester, rather than hoping someone will offer Fang for Batwing alone (they won't).
The discounted exit route hurts on paper but is still better than holding an item you can't use. Remember: a weapon sitting in your inventory doing nothing is worth zero in practice, regardless of what any value list says.
Should You Buy a Batwing, or Skip It?
If you don't already own a Batwing, the question is whether acquiring one makes sense for your inventory. The answer depends on why you want it.
If you're a collector filling out an Ancient library and you've already secured the liquid Ancients — Harvester, Icebreaker, Gingerscope — Batwing is a reasonable pickup at the lower end of its value range. Just go in knowing you're buying for completion, not for flipping.
If you're a trader looking for an item that will move, skip Batwing and put your value toward Harvester (high awareness, steady demand), Icebreaker (set premium with Iceblaster), or a stack of liquid Godlies like Fang and Shark. These items actually trade in the lobbies where you'll spend your time.
If you're a newer MM2 player who saw "Ancient" on the tier label and assumed that means high value, this is the lesson Batwing teaches better than any guide can: the Ancient tier is a category label, not a liquidity guarantee. Rarity tier tells you the weapon's classification. Demand tells you whether anyone will actually pay for it.
Pick Your Path Based on Your Timeline
The right move for your Batwing depends almost entirely on how long you're willing to wait. Use the table below to match your situation to the best action.
| Your Situation | Best Move | Specific Action | Expect |
|---|---|---|---|
| Need to convert Batwing into value within 3 days | Discounted exit | Offer the Batwing at 36-38 on Supreme Values in busy trade servers; accept any liquid Godly offer above 30 even if the list says it's a loss | 1-3 days to close; lose 15-20% of paper value |
| Can wait 1-2 weeks | Bundle with a liquid add you already own | Pair with your existing Fang/Laser/Shark and post "Fang + Batwing bundle" on MM2Values Discord looking for Harvester or equivalent | 3-10 days; keep 65-80% of combined value |
| Can wait 2-4 weeks, want fair value | Target collectors on Discord | Search "LF Batwing" posts on Supreme Values and MM2Values Discord daily; respond only to collectors who name Batwing specifically | 1-4 weeks; keep 80-95% of paper value |
| Want to skip trading entirely | Buy directly from a marketplace | Browse MM2 weapon listings — if you're acquiring, compare seller notes and delivery details; if you're ready to buy a liquid add for bundling, grab Fang or Laser first | Same day delivery for purchases; no trade-lobby waiting |
If your inventory is empty except for Batwing and you need the bundle route, buy a cheap liquid Godly like Fang from a marketplace first — spending a couple of dollars on Fang unlocks the bundle exit path. If that isn't an option, go straight for the discounted exit. Waiting with zero other tradeable items won't improve your position.
Before you commit to any route, confirm the exact weapon name in the listing or trade window. Every piece of advice in this article assumes you're holding a legitimate Batwing — not a Glitch, not a mislabeled Godly. If the name doesn't say "Batwing" exactly, stop and verify before you spend anything.

Frequently Asked Questions
Why is Batwing so cheap compared to other Ancient weapons?
Batwing sits at 46-52 on most value lists because demand is rated Very Low. The 2021 duping event eroded buyer trust, there's no matching set piece to create demand pull, and its visual design hasn't kept up with newer Ancients. The combination keeps its value-list number in the low-mid range and its real trade volume near the bottom of the Ancient tier.
Is Batwing the hardest Ancient to trade in MM2?
Among well-known Ancients, Batwing is consistently mentioned as one of the hardest to move. Elderwood Scythe and Logchopper face similar liquidity problems — both have low demand despite respectable value-list numbers. But Batwing's specific combination of duping history, no set pair, and aging visuals makes it the clearest case study of an "Ancient label trap."
What's the difference between Batwing and Glitch in MM2?
Glitch is a common knife that was created when Nikilis re-skinned duped Batwings during the 2021 glitch cleanup. Glitch shares its design with Whiteout and has essentially no trading value. If you see "Glitch" in a trade window, it's a duped Batwing that was converted — don't trade for it thinking it's an Ancient variant.
Can Batwing still be obtained from a Halloween event or crate?
No. Batwing was exclusive to the Halloween 2018 event gamepass and has been trade-only since the event ended. It does not drop from any crate, box, or seasonal event.
Should you buy Batwing MM2 items or trade for them?
If you're a collector and the listing shows a legitimate Batwing (not Glitch), buying from a verified shop listing saves you the weeks of lobby searching — use the same verification checks covered earlier. If you're a trader looking for an item that will flip quickly, skip Batwing and go for a liquid Godly or a higher-demand Ancient instead.
What's a fair trade for Batwing in 2026?
Based on community value-list signals checked in July 2026, Batwing is valued around 46-52. But value-list fairness doesn't guarantee trade acceptance — Batwing's Very Low demand means you may need to offer slightly above the paper value or bundle it with a liquid add to close a deal. Treat the number as a starting reference, not a guaranteed trade outcome.









